{"id":10444,"date":"2013-03-05T19:57:19","date_gmt":"2013-03-05T18:57:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.disparates.org\/iota\/?p=10444"},"modified":"2023-03-09T14:45:47","modified_gmt":"2023-03-09T13:45:47","slug":"1895","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.disparates.org\/iota\/2013\/03\/1895\/","title":{"rendered":"Entretien avec Jean Clair &#8211; \u00c9loge du d\u00e9sarroi"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Emission \u00ab\u00a0Les \u00e9nigmes partag\u00e9es, psychanalyse et neurosciences\u00a0\u00bb<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Avec <strong>Jean Clair<\/strong>, interview\u00e9 par Fran\u00e7ois Ansermet, pychanalyste, membre de l&rsquo;Ecole de la Cause freudienne, et <strong>Pierre Magistretti<\/strong>,&nbsp; sp\u00e9cialiste du m\u00e9tabolisme c\u00e9r\u00e9bral.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-4-3 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"940\" height=\"529\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/spnaUOcgExs?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=fr-FR&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"295\" height=\"432\" data-attachment-id=\"10503\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.disparates.org\/iota\/2013\/03\/1895\/rayon-x_dr\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.disparates.org\/iota\/wp-content\/uploads\/rayon-X_DR.gif?fit=295%2C432&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"295,432\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"rayon-X_DR\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.disparates.org\/iota\/wp-content\/uploads\/rayon-X_DR.gif?fit=295%2C432&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.disparates.org\/iota\/wp-content\/uploads\/rayon-X_DR.gif?fit=295%2C432&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.disparates.org\/iota\/wp-content\/uploads\/rayon-X_DR.gif?resize=295%2C432&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10503\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p><strong>1895<\/strong>, date cl\u00e9, synchronie ahurissante :<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>L&rsquo;esquisse<\/em> de Freud, les travaux sur l&rsquo;hyst\u00e9rie &#8211; v\u00e9ritable rupture \u00e9pist\u00e9mologique<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>d\u00e9couverte des <strong>rayons X<\/strong> par R\u00f6ntgen &#8211;&gt; influence sur litt\u00e9rature, ex Thomas Mann, <em>La montagne magique<\/em>, stup\u00e9faction du h\u00e9ros quand il d\u00e9couvre les poumons de sa bien aim\u00e9e r\u00e9duits \u00e0 une <strong>photographie spectrale<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>cin\u00e9ma<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>d\u00e9couverte des <strong>g\u00e9om\u00e9tries pluridimensionnelles<\/strong>, qui rendent les perspectives traditionnelles compl\u00e8tement caduques<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>neurologie <\/strong>: les premi\u00e8res \u00e9tudes sur le cortex c\u00e9r\u00e9bral &#8211; avortons de Penfield sensoriels et moteurs (homoncules)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>nouvelles incursions dans le domaine de la forme \/ figure (imaginaire) ;<\/strong>&nbsp; choses qui n&rsquo;ont jamais \u00e9t\u00e9 vues qui sont vues pour la premi\u00e8re fois &#8211;&gt; surgissement de l&rsquo;invisible<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>lien art science psychanalyse se fait autour de l&rsquo;invisible<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>d\u00e9sarroi absolu de l&rsquo;artiste<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>jusque l\u00e0 corpus visuel de normes de lois de canons de proportions de sym\u00e9tries et m\u00eame au MoyenAge un iconographie extr\u00eamement pr\u00e9cise (cohortes d&rsquo;anges, nombre de plumes fix\u00e9es sur les ailes&#8230;). corpus extr\u00eamement d\u00e9fini. nombr\u00e9, harmonis\u00e9. plus d&rsquo;anatomie plus de r\u00e8gles, plus de foi, \u00e0 quoi sert un tableau? ne sert plus non plus \u00e0 r\u00e9jouir regard des puissants de ce monde. d\u00e9route totale des syst de repr\u00e9sentations<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>bricolage, nouvelles g\u00e9om\u00e9tries, anatomies<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>les archives les plus int\u00e9ressantes sur duchenne de boulogne se trouvent \u00e0 l&rsquo;\u00e9cole des Beaux-Arts de Paris&#8230; idem pour Marais, Brichet (la salp\u00e9tri\u00e8re),<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>invention de l&rsquo;hyst\u00e9rie &#8211; \u00ab\u00a0l&rsquo;hyst\u00e9rie ignore l&rsquo;anatomie\u00a0\u00bb, plasticit\u00e9 nouvelle du corps.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00ab\u00a0exp\u00e9rimentations path\u00e9tiques\u00a0\u00bb du futurisme, du cubisme, vont tenter cr\u00e9er nouvelles r\u00e8gles nouveaux canons (Braque, Gris). bricolage, n&rsquo;aboutit \u00e0 un code de perception tel que l&rsquo;anatomie de L\u00e9onard \u00e0 la Renaissance. Cubisme dure 5 ans (par rapport \u00e0 histoire du Mani\u00e9risme.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>[Giacometti, L&rsquo;objet invisible, La pointe \u00e0 l&rsquo;oeil&nbsp;&#8211; ce qui reste, le rocher qui ne bouge pas, c&rsquo;est le visage, est-ce qu&rsquo;on peut encore repr\u00e9senter un visage? ]<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>abstraction, chose extr\u00eamement diff\u00e9rentes; au d\u00e9but de l&rsquo;abstraction 1905, 6<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>duchamp d\u00e9couvre g\u00e9om\u00e9trie pluridimensieonnelle<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>bibliographie: <em>Ubris <\/em>de Jean Clair<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Voir aussi : <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lacan.com\/symptom8_articles\/wajcman8.html\">G\u00e9rard Wajcman, Intime expos\u00e9, intime extorqu\u00e9<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Emission \u00ab\u00a0Les \u00e9nigmes partag\u00e9es, psychanalyse et neurosciences\u00a0\u00bb Avec Jean Clair, interview\u00e9 par Fran\u00e7ois Ansermet, pychanalyste, membre de l&rsquo;Ecole de la Cause freudienne, et Pierre Magistretti,&nbsp; sp\u00e9cialiste du m\u00e9tabolisme c\u00e9r\u00e9bral. 1895, date cl\u00e9, synchronie ahurissante : L&rsquo;esquisse de Freud, les travaux sur l&rsquo;hyst\u00e9rie &#8211; v\u00e9ritable rupture \u00e9pist\u00e9mologique d\u00e9couverte des rayons X par R\u00f6ntgen &#8211;&gt; influence sur&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.disparates.org\/iota\/2013\/03\/1895\/\">Poursuivre la lecture <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Entretien avec Jean Clair &#8211; \u00c9loge du d\u00e9sarroi<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":11,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"video","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[545,44],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-10444","post","type-post","status-publish","format-video","hentry","category-art","category-psychanalyse","post_format-post-format-video","entry"],"acf":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.disparates.org\/iota\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10444","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.disparates.org\/iota\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.disparates.org\/iota\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.disparates.org\/iota\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/11"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.disparates.org\/iota\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=10444"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.disparates.org\/iota\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10444\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.disparates.org\/iota\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=10444"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.disparates.org\/iota\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=10444"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.disparates.org\/iota\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=10444"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}